fourth house, one could see that she too had exited through the rear. What they did to her was terrible, they took the children from her, they took them away, they beat her badly, I remember that the soldiers grabbed her by the arms and legs, lifted her up, and threw her to the ground; it was terrible what they did to that woman.”39 He indicated that the children were taken to a YPF gas station that was at a corner and sat them on the counter.40 Another resident declared that he saw when some soldiers who were coming from the house of the JulienGrisonas family were bringing the children, who were crying, and that a neighbor told him that when the children were shouting for their mother the soldiers told them “la yegua de tu madre ya no está más” (“your stupid mother is no more”).41 Anatole recalls “walking with someone, taken by the hand, who [was] also taking his sister, in their arms, and when he looked back he observed his parents laid out face down on the ground, hands apart, while persons pointed weapons at them, one of them near his mother, with uniform, helmet, and machine gun.”42 2. On the detention at “Automotores Orletti” and the transfers to Uruguay and Chile 62. It has been shown that Victoria Grisonas and her son and daughter were subsequently transferred to “Orletti,” where they were seen by several witnesses, who also indicated they saw the children with María Claudia García pregnant with Macarena Gelman43, they being victims in the Case of Gelman v. Uruguay, decided by the Inter-American Court. It has also been shown that Victoria Grisonas was subjected to torture. 44 According to the witnesses, Victoria Grisonas was taken up to the second floor of “Orletti” and was not seen again. According to one detainee who spoke with Anatole at “Orletti,” Anatole mentioned to him that “there were several persons, among which he mentioned his mother – saying that she had been dragged by the hair and he made a gesture indicating that – his sister, and approximately 15 other persons” and friends of his parents.45 63. In October 1976, the siblings were transferred to Montevideo, Uruguay, and taken to the headquarters of the Defense Information Service (SID: Servicio de Información de Defensa), situated at Boulevard Artigas y Palmar. According to witnesses, the vast majority of the persons detained were in the basement level whereas on the ground level were the children along with María Claudia García, who had also been transferred to Uruguay. The siblings stayed at the SID until December 1976, when they were transferred to Chile. There is no record of a legal entry to the country, but it is known that they travelled in an airplane, according to Anatole’s account; he recalls “being in a small airplane, where they gave him permission to see the cockpit, which was open, it being the first time that he saw the steering wheel of an airplane and mountains, which he later found out was the Andean Cordillera.”46 64. The siblings were abandoned in the Plaza O’Higgins in Valparaíso on December 22, 1976, where they were found by the Carabineros police force. According to the petitioner, and as reflected in the judicial record, an article published in the newspaper “El Mercurio,” described the details about these facts and of how they Annex XX. “Vaello, Orestes et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty and aggravated homicide,” National Court for Federal Criminal and Correctional Matters No. 3, Secretariat No. 6, pp. 95-96 and 569-691. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 40 Annex XX. “Vaello, Orestes et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty and aggravated homicide,” National Court for Federal Criminal and Correctional Matters No. 3, Secretariat No. 6, p. 100. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 41 Annex XX. “Vaello, Orestes et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty and aggravated homicide,” National Court for Federal Criminal and Correctional Matters No. 3, Secretariat No. 6, p. 96. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 42 Annex XX. Judgment handed down May 31, 2011 in Case No. 1627 captioned “Guillamondegui, Néstor Horacio et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty, imposition of torments, and aggravated homicide,” Oral Tribunal for Federal Criminal Matters No. 1, p. 619. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 43 Annex XX. Judgment handed down May 31, 2011 in Case No. 1627 captioned “Guillamondegui, Néstor Horacio et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty, imposition of torments, and aggravated homicide,” Oral Tribunal for Federal Criminal Matters No. 1, p. 235. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 44 Annex XX. “Vaello, Orestes et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty and aggravated homicide,” National Court for Federal Criminal and Correctional Matters No. 3, Secretariat No. 6, p. 73. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 45 Annex XX. Judgment handed down May 31, 2011 in Case No. 1627 captioned “Guillamondegui, Néstor Horacio et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty, imposition of torments, and aggravated homicide,” Oral Tribunal for Federal Criminal Matters No. 1, pp. 463, 690691. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 46 Annex XX. Judgment handed down May 31, 2011 in Case No. 1627 captioned “Guillamondegui, Néstor Horacio et al. re/aggravated illegal deprivation of liberty, imposition of torments, and aggravated homicide,” Oral Tribunal for Federal Criminal Matters No. 1, pp. 514 y 620. Annex to the petitioner’s brief of August 3, 2012. 39